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	<title>Comments on: Turbotax Warning for Ameritrade Users, or How I Discovered I Was Rich</title>
	<link>http://dummyspots.com/2007/03/turbotax-warning-for-ameritrade-users-or-how-i-discovered-i-was-rich/</link>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://dummyspots.com/2007/03/turbotax-warning-for-ameritrade-users-or-how-i-discovered-i-was-rich/#comment-2964</link>
		<author>Will</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 02:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kavu - Glad I could be of help!  I can see from your "$2 million in taxes" that you've been a very good Amertrade customer as well; they should be treating you better.  Thanks for the visit and best of luck w/ your trading and your taxes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kavu - Glad I could be of help!  I can see from your &#8220;$2 million in taxes&#8221; that you&#8217;ve been a very good Amertrade customer as well; they should be treating you better.  Thanks for the visit and best of luck w/ your trading and your taxes!</p>
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		<title>By: kavu</title>
		<link>http://dummyspots.com/2007/03/turbotax-warning-for-ameritrade-users-or-how-i-discovered-i-was-rich/#comment-2963</link>
		<author>kavu</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never mind, thanks.  File/Remove Imported Data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never mind, thanks.  File/Remove Imported Data.</p>
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		<title>By: kavu</title>
		<link>http://dummyspots.com/2007/03/turbotax-warning-for-ameritrade-users-or-how-i-discovered-i-was-rich/#comment-2962</link>
		<author>kavu</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting this, about 30 minutes ago, I discovered that I "owe" $2,965,994.  I called Ameritrade.  They were *useless* and directed me to Gainskeeper.  

Before forking over a bunch of money to Gainskeeper, I searched the web and found your comments here.  I would like to give it a try, but have a question.  Once you had downloaded all those useless transactions, how the heck did you get them out of TurboTax?  I just want to remove the Ameritrade import and restart that section but can't figure out how to get that done.

Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting this, about 30 minutes ago, I discovered that I &#8220;owe&#8221; $2,965,994.  I called Ameritrade.  They were *useless* and directed me to Gainskeeper.  </p>
<p>Before forking over a bunch of money to Gainskeeper, I searched the web and found your comments here.  I would like to give it a try, but have a question.  Once you had downloaded all those useless transactions, how the heck did you get them out of TurboTax?  I just want to remove the Ameritrade import and restart that section but can&#8217;t figure out how to get that done.</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://dummyspots.com/2007/03/turbotax-warning-for-ameritrade-users-or-how-i-discovered-i-was-rich/#comment-2897</link>
		<author>Will</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 14:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>amar - All I can guess is that, for some reason, the file is empty.  Check and see if your TXF file is named &lt;strong&gt;Realized_(your acct no. here)_2006.txf&lt;/strong&gt; ... if it is, maybe go back and download that same file as an Excel or Text file (from the same "Export Data" page as the TXF) and look through it manually.  If your Gain/Loss data seems to all be there, try re-downloading the TXF file (just in case it was corrupt) and try the import on that.  Past that, I got nuthin'.  Sorry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amar - All I can guess is that, for some reason, the file is empty.  Check and see if your TXF file is named <strong>Realized_(your acct no. here)_2006.txf</strong> &#8230; if it is, maybe go back and download that same file as an Excel or Text file (from the same &#8220;Export Data&#8221; page as the TXF) and look through it manually.  If your Gain/Loss data seems to all be there, try re-downloading the TXF file (just in case it was corrupt) and try the import on that.  Past that, I got nuthin&#8217;.  Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: amar</title>
		<link>http://dummyspots.com/2007/03/turbotax-warning-for-ameritrade-users-or-how-i-discovered-i-was-rich/#comment-2890</link>
		<author>amar</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Apr 2007 03:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am trying to import .txf file from Ameritrade and Turbo Tax says "No Information exists for other financial software (TXF file) filename"

I chose other Other Program (TXF file). then selected file to import( i got this file from TDAmeritrade.

can some one explain what could be going wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am trying to import .txf file from Ameritrade and Turbo Tax says &#8220;No Information exists for other financial software (TXF file) filename&#8221;</p>
<p>I chose other Other Program (TXF file). then selected file to import( i got this file from TDAmeritrade.</p>
<p>can some one explain what could be going wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://dummyspots.com/2007/03/turbotax-warning-for-ameritrade-users-or-how-i-discovered-i-was-rich/#comment-2108</link>
		<author>Will</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Mar 2007 00:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob - Thanks very much for the info.  I thought I had made it clear in the post that it was the data in the 1099-B download ("only the figure required by the IRS, which is gross sales") that caused the surprise, and not an inaccurate calculation on the part of TurboTax.  I apoligize if I didn't.  (I'm sure if that &lt;em&gt;were&lt;/em&gt; all income, the tax calculation would have been spot-on).  

However, TT didn't hesitate in throwing out that million-dollar figure, and I can't imagine there are many people paying income taxes of seven digits who use software on their home computer to file.  I'd like to suggest a flag in next year's version (&lt;strong&gt;Did you really mean to list all those sales with no cost basis?  Perhaps your broker offers an alternate download which includes them.&lt;/strong&gt; or &lt;strong&gt; Alert- we show your income increased four hundred million gazillion percent over last year... is this correct?&lt;/strong&gt;), and not just a happy &lt;strong&gt;Retrieve Successful!&lt;/strong&gt; message.  If they didn't know (without being prompted) to immediately go to the Sched. D and investigate, many folks would never make it to the &lt;strong&gt;Final Review&lt;/strong&gt; (where TT offers the option of entering cost basis manually), and with a million-dollar figure staring at them from the top left of their screen-- they'd stop and get out before that, thinking something must be "wrong" with TT.

Alternatively, a simple and effective adjustment may be to have TT kick out the "please manually enter your cost basis" screen &lt;em&gt;before leaving the income section of the interview&lt;/em&gt;. 

The main intent of the post was to remind people to double-check (and not blindly click-and-trust; there must always be some level of personal responsibility involved), and also not to both download the 1099s as suggested during the "interview" &lt;strong&gt;and&lt;/strong&gt; import (duplicate) data separately via the .TXF file (it'll happily allow you to do both).

I've been a TurboTax user since 1999, even through the dark &lt;strong&gt;C-Dilla&lt;/strong&gt; days (but I'm a good nerd and had Drive Image on standby, so no harm no foul), and I have no doubt about its ability to perform accurate calculations.  Just concerned- as TT has been modified to be more user-friendly and penetrate the market of "you don't have to be able to fill out a 1040 to do your own taxes", it may be good to include more intra-interview alert flags for those people, not unlike the old Out- of- Range alerts on various software, but friendlier.  

Old goats like me don't get too flustered by an indication of 1.3m in taxes owed, and can discover the problem (which, as you point out, is the download) and the solution in 2 beers or less, but tender young trader/tax filers may get pretty confused and clog up your help lines or, worse for ya'll, uninstall TT in a panic and use something else because they have no idea what happened, and the words on their screen only say "Success".

I appreciate your taking the time to stop by, and I continue to encourage everyone I know to buy TurboTax and use it for what it is... a thoroughly excellent &lt;em&gt;aid&lt;/em&gt; in speeding up the process of &lt;em&gt;them&lt;/em&gt; doing their own taxes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob - Thanks very much for the info.  I thought I had made it clear in the post that it was the data in the 1099-B download (&#8221;only the figure required by the IRS, which is gross sales&#8221;) that caused the surprise, and not an inaccurate calculation on the part of TurboTax.  I apoligize if I didn&#8217;t.  (I&#8217;m sure if that <em>were</em> all income, the tax calculation would have been spot-on).  </p>
<p>However, TT didn&#8217;t hesitate in throwing out that million-dollar figure, and I can&#8217;t imagine there are many people paying income taxes of seven digits who use software on their home computer to file.  I&#8217;d like to suggest a flag in next year&#8217;s version (<strong>Did you really mean to list all those sales with no cost basis?  Perhaps your broker offers an alternate download which includes them.</strong> or <strong> Alert- we show your income increased four hundred million gazillion percent over last year&#8230; is this correct?</strong>), and not just a happy <strong>Retrieve Successful!</strong> message.  If they didn&#8217;t know (without being prompted) to immediately go to the Sched. D and investigate, many folks would never make it to the <strong>Final Review</strong> (where TT offers the option of entering cost basis manually), and with a million-dollar figure staring at them from the top left of their screen&#8211; they&#8217;d stop and get out before that, thinking something must be &#8220;wrong&#8221; with TT.</p>
<p>Alternatively, a simple and effective adjustment may be to have TT kick out the &#8220;please manually enter your cost basis&#8221; screen <em>before leaving the income section of the interview</em>. </p>
<p>The main intent of the post was to remind people to double-check (and not blindly click-and-trust; there must always be some level of personal responsibility involved), and also not to both download the 1099s as suggested during the &#8220;interview&#8221; <strong>and</strong> import (duplicate) data separately via the .TXF file (it&#8217;ll happily allow you to do both).</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been a TurboTax user since 1999, even through the dark <strong>C-Dilla</strong> days (but I&#8217;m a good nerd and had Drive Image on standby, so no harm no foul), and I have no doubt about its ability to perform accurate calculations.  Just concerned- as TT has been modified to be more user-friendly and penetrate the market of &#8220;you don&#8217;t have to be able to fill out a 1040 to do your own taxes&#8221;, it may be good to include more intra-interview alert flags for those people, not unlike the old Out- of- Range alerts on various software, but friendlier.  </p>
<p>Old goats like me don&#8217;t get too flustered by an indication of 1.3m in taxes owed, and can discover the problem (which, as you point out, is the download) and the solution in 2 beers or less, but tender young trader/tax filers may get pretty confused and clog up your help lines or, worse for ya&#8217;ll, uninstall TT in a panic and use something else because they have no idea what happened, and the words on their screen only say &#8220;Success&#8221;.</p>
<p>I appreciate your taking the time to stop by, and I continue to encourage everyone I know to buy TurboTax and use it for what it is&#8230; a thoroughly excellent <em>aid</em> in speeding up the process of <em>them</em> doing their own taxes.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Meighan</title>
		<link>http://dummyspots.com/2007/03/turbotax-warning-for-ameritrade-users-or-how-i-discovered-i-was-rich/#comment-2103</link>
		<author>Bob Meighan</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 14:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dummyspots.com/2007/03/turbotax-warning-for-ameritrade-users-or-how-i-discovered-i-was-rich/#comment-2103</guid>
		<description>Note regarding downloading brokerage information... Whether your brokerage provides cost basis with your stocks sold is at their discretion. Some brokerages provide this information so there is nothing more you need to do to get an accurate picture of Schedule D. TurboTax has no control over what the brokerages provide via the download. We simply give them the tools to provide as much information to us as possible. If your brokerage does NOT provide cost basis, TurboTax will flag each of the stock transactions in Final Review.

I hope this information helps.

Bob Meighan
VP, TurboTax</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note regarding downloading brokerage information&#8230; Whether your brokerage provides cost basis with your stocks sold is at their discretion. Some brokerages provide this information so there is nothing more you need to do to get an accurate picture of Schedule D. TurboTax has no control over what the brokerages provide via the download. We simply give them the tools to provide as much information to us as possible. If your brokerage does NOT provide cost basis, TurboTax will flag each of the stock transactions in Final Review.</p>
<p>I hope this information helps.</p>
<p>Bob Meighan<br />
VP, TurboTax</p>
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		<title>By: Dinosaur Trader</title>
		<link>http://dummyspots.com/2007/03/turbotax-warning-for-ameritrade-users-or-how-i-discovered-i-was-rich/#comment-2102</link>
		<author>Dinosaur Trader</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 12:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great point about Apple. When everyone things it's a screaming buy, it's normally a sell.

William O'Neil, IBD founder, says that if you ever see a company's CEO on the cover of a national magazine that it's time to sell... In Apple's case, this would have taken you out of the long trade a little early, but I get his, and your, point.

Weak Durable Goods report... maybe stocks roll today?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point about Apple. When everyone things it&#8217;s a screaming buy, it&#8217;s normally a sell.</p>
<p>William O&#8217;Neil, IBD founder, says that if you ever see a company&#8217;s CEO on the cover of a national magazine that it&#8217;s time to sell&#8230; In Apple&#8217;s case, this would have taken you out of the long trade a little early, but I get his, and your, point.</p>
<p>Weak Durable Goods report&#8230; maybe stocks roll today?</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
		<link>http://dummyspots.com/2007/03/turbotax-warning-for-ameritrade-users-or-how-i-discovered-i-was-rich/#comment-2091</link>
		<author>dave</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2007 00:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eTrade did the same thing for me ... but I went in and manually adjusted. Wished I had read your instructions first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eTrade did the same thing for me &#8230; but I went in and manually adjusted. Wished I had read your instructions first.</p>
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